> > How high on the temp gauge will a normal, healthy, V-Max get if you're > jumping on it a little and spending time idling in traffic at a normal 65-70 > degree ambient temperature? I've seen mine climb all the way up to just a > bit (1/8", maybe) below the red zone and sit there when I'm idling. . . is > this somewhat high or normal? Cooling system was just flushed/filled. > > Thanks! > > jasond Normal. Roy ---------- Subject: Re: Vmax Running temperature? Jason, buy the time your fan comes on your at 230*. Get the Borg warner thermal fan switch #545 and it will come on at 205*. Don "Old Man" Smith --------------------- Stay with the stock thermostat, the thermal switch is a Borg-Warner TF-545 you can buy it at any discount Auto Parts store ($20) ----------------- Ivan Wallace wrote: > I tried to find a fan switch yesterday. The parts house I contacted did not > have the Borg Warner TFS545 but the number crossed over to a Beck Arnley > 201-1373. Do not buy this switch! It will screw in but it will not go in > far enough to seat the O ring. The threaded portion of the switch is not > threaded far enough for the switch to screw all the way in. Oh well, now I > have new coolant in the engine anyway. I may try to find a Borg Warner > unit, at least now I know what to look for in a switch. I may just take > this as an omen and install a manual switch. ----------------- > AOL's done it again, losing my packets, so thanx > again to Mario and Dave R. for responding to the > question about the thermostatic switch. Still > wondering if that part Borg Warner # 545@205 E > is for a stock replacement, or a cooler temp for > another vehicle (is that @ symbol supposed to be a 2?), > and I'd REALLY like a 160 degree thermostat. The switch is denominated "Borg-Warner TFS-545" (Thermal Fan Switch=TFS) it is used on the Nissan Sentras, since I've installed the switch, temp. won't reach the half way mark. (I said this before, didn't I ?) Mario -------------- The BW TFS-545 comes on at 205-208 and goes off at 195. Don "Old Man" Smith --------------------------- From: Jim Riordan To: V-Max@sayegh.org Subject: Re: thermostat Message-ID: <362F75C7.162CC9D8@riordanco.com> After installing a Standard Ignition brand thermal fan switch, p.n. TS148, which closed and turned the fan on @195F and opened and turned the fan off @183F, I found that the bike would never run hot and the needle would not even reach the "dot" which appears to indicate "normal" before the fan would come on. The problem is, the bike would rarely cool off below the 183F, (which is about two needle widths below the "dot" on my bike, meaning the fan would rarely shut off. I then bought a Borg Warner TFS 545 and measured it before installation. It closed @ 185F and opened @175F and would have been worse than the standard ignition as far as the fan never shutting off. Since my bike sees the needle going above the "dot" only after a series of long stoplights on a hot day, I put the stock fan switch back in. I then soldered in a "connected pair" at the ends of the wires going to the switch. One side of the pair gets soldered to one side of the switch, the other wire of the pair going to the other side of the switch. I then slid the soldered wires into crimp-on female insulated spade lug connectors and hooked them up to the switch. I then ran the "connected pair" up through the wire harness which runs to the right handlebar switch assembly and installed a ten amp mini toggle on the top surface of the switch. To get the wire through I simply ran a thin stainless piece of music wire through from the handlebar switch side of the harness tube, taped the pair of wires to it and then gently pulled it through the harness. I can now flip the fan switch on with my thumb for those super hot stoplight moments and then turn it off as soon as I am rolling. With the stock switch as a backup, it will never overheat so I now have the best of both worlds. Jim Riordan ------------------ I bought a Borg Warner Fan thermostatic switch TFS 545...correct me if I'm wrong. I had to order it from Pep boys around $23. When putting this switch in your supposed to keep the old O ring. Credit to the list for this info. Many have replaced it and it works. Usually the neddle only get to mid range after replacement. So I will be installing my switch in a few weeks. My temp guage does as your does. Same indications. But it has never gone into the red. But to close for comfort. ---------------- Well, I just got done running all over the place looking for a Borg Warner TFS 545 thermostatic switch. It seems like the thing is not available. I was told that Borg Warner has it on Nation Back Order. Anyway, if you are trying to get this switch, you are going to have to wait for a long time to find it. I was able to get a cross number through "STANDARD", PART #TS148. This switch will work for you, since the Borg Warner switch is not available. I will be installing it in a few days when I can get some time. Between work and the wife making me do that spring time yard work, I am not sure I can remember what its like to have a full day to just mess around. That's ok, I guess as long as I can keep her happy, I'll be able to get the stuff for my bike that I need & want! hehehe. Now if I can just get some time to install the stuff and ride!!!! I hope this information helps. Take care and stay safe. EDDIE HILL 1997 V-MAX San Antonio, Texas EDDIE & C.C. HILL handcuff@flash.net eddie.hill@cleat.org I managed to take a little time to try and install the Temperature Sensor. I went to Pep Boys and they crossed over the Borg Warner number to one from Standard (TS-148). Well, I took the side covers off and I think I found the Temperature Sensor located under the Radiator Cap. If this is the sensor that I am looking for, the brass screw looks to be larger than the one I just bought. If this is the case, I am not going to be able to use the new one. Can anyone tell me the procedure for changing out this part? Do I have to splice the wires once I get the right part? or do I have the right part and I am looking at the wrong thing on the bike? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. :-) EDDIE HILL ----------------- I hope that everyone is doing good and enjoying this close to summer weather. Now I know that some of you live in the colder areas of the world, so I will use the expression loosely, hehehe. Well, talking about warmer weather, I just wanted to let everyone know that I finally was able to get my bike fixed. The STANDARD #TS-148 Switch did work on my bike. I was amazed that fit without a problem. Just from looking at the stock thermostatic switch, I was almost sure that the new one would not fit. First, I decided to drain all the radiator fluid out and flush the system. I figured that since I was messing with the cooling system, I should go all the way and do it right. After I did that, I flushed the system REAL good and made sure that everything was clean. Then I pulled out the stock sensor, which was a bit difficult getting a wrench in a space that tight. I ended up removing the small hoses around the sensor so that they would not become damaged during my wrestling match with the stock sensor. Once that was removed, The new sensor can be installed. Now, the new sensor has a plug made for the vehicle it was ment for. Cut the plug off and put a new plug (female) that will fit the factory plug that is already on your bike. This will allow you to use the factory sensor if you need it for an emergency. Once you plug it in, you are set and ready for the antifreeze. I used Prestone Antifreeze 5/150 Extended Life, with NO SILICA & PHOSPHATE FREE. Mix it half & half with Distilled water. Its orange antifreeze and I have been told that it works very well. I also added Red Line Water Wetter to the system. All of this combined has made a big difference in the way MAX runs. If you want your bike to run cooler, give it a try and see what you think. Take care and stay safe!!!! God Bless, EDDIE HILL 1997 V-MAX San Antonio, Texas ICQ# 709753 EDDIE & C.C. HILL handcuff@flash.net -------------------- > What's up, you ask? Well, I was trying to replace my frame > cross member, and managed to do something to the thermostat housing. > The coolant drain plug sits on a pipe. That pipe goes into the > thermostat housing on the right side of the engine. Where it goes > in is now leaking. *&)%)*&^%*& Not a lot, but I'm sure it will > when it heats up. > > If anyone has any idea how to fix this, PLEASE let me know. Either > email me directly, or call me at home (408) 736-7763. The local > shop can't fix it until Tuesday, and other shops are too far away > for me to ride there with leaking coolant. Working from memory here, that pipe has on O-ring that keeps it from leaking. REmove the bolt (or whatever holds the pipe into the engine) and pull the pipe out. You should now be able to see the O-ring. If it's not damaged you should be able to push it back into proper position and fix the leak. If it's damaged at all you'll have to get another one, but you MAY get lucky and find one the right size at the auto parts store. Mike Sayers