Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:10:19 -0500 From: "Doug Nelson" Subject: "Bob Hunter" : Vmax Fw: 92 v-max Bob Hunter wrote: I own a 92 Max and I just got home from Sturgis and my bike sat for 2 weeks When I went to start it , made a loud thump and I now have 20 psi in 3 cylinders and 90 in the other. It ran fine when I parked it now its dead in the water! I am looking for some one to help me get it running again. The shop I have it in says They want to sell me a used motor because they say it will cost more to rebuild than a used one but they still cant tell me why it has no compression. Any thoughts? Bob your not so bad off. If you know a little about a motor read on if not ask your dealer (reputable) to these checks. First of all a used engine is no better than you really got except it will run, but with no idea of the abuse it has went through. You could have your own engine rebuilt buy some shop like PCW for around $1000.00 or less and have a fresh engine, but lets look at what is your problem. 1) First remove and inspect all spark plugs. Look very closely to see if any of the end electrodes are bent, distorted, pushed in, if so only concentrate on these cylinders. if not do all checks listed below on all cylinders. 2) Now remove your valve covers. 3) Put your engine on the center stand or jack the rear wheel off the ground. 4) Now remove the front left flywheel cover small timing inspection sight plug 5) Put the engine in 5 gear 6) Bump the rear wheel so the fly wheel is moving counter clock wise until the T-1 mark on the fly wheel is aligned with the case cover timing arrow (inside the plug hole). 7) Check to see if that the cams are facing away from each other not pushing down on any of the valves (compression stroke). 8) If not rotate the engine counter clock wise another 360 degrees to align the arrow on the case cover to the T-1 mark on fly wheel, now you should be on the compression stroke for that cyl. 9) Now look at your timing mark at the end of the cam to make sure the small timing hole on both cams are straight up, should be center to the line mark on the out side end of the cam cap 10) If they are aligned then the aft cams are still timed, chain has not slipped. 11) Rotate the engine counter clock wise another 360 degrees plus 70 more to the T-2 mark (for a total of 430 degrees) 12) Look at the front cams to make sure the large timing holes are at top and center to the end cap out side line 13) If that was good, your front cams are still timed, chain has not slipped 14) Bump the rear wheel counter clock wise until the cylinder your inspecting is at the top, "should be in the compression stroke" (the cams are pointing away from each other (in a no valve lift position, valves are fully closed and not being compressed) if not rotate the engine another 360 degrees C/, now it should be in the compression stroke. 15) Now bump the rear wheel while shifting gears until your in first gear, but don't move the cams from their position 16) lower the bike onto the ground 17) Now go buy or borrow a engine leak down tester with a spark plug thread size of 12mm. 18) Borrow a air compressor, doesn't have to be a big one just one that goes to around 100 PSI. If the air compressor doesn't have the same quick disconnect coupler as the compressor go to sears and buy one that will fit it 19) Screw the 12 mm leak down tester fitting and the hose that goes to it into the cyl being tested. 20) Hook the air compressor to the leak down tester hose/ gage) Remove both forward and aft valve covers. 21) If you have a stock exhaust remove the exhaust pipe so you can put your ear up to the exhaust out let, if you have a after market pipe remove the end pipe so you can put your ear up to the pipe with no obstruction from your ear to the head exhaust port. 22)Remove carburetor airbox or air filters what ever you might have 23) Have some one sit on the bike to keep it from moving when you pressurize the cylinder. 24) Start out by pumping around 60 PSI into the cylinder 25) Open your throttle fully open. 26) Now with throttle fully open put your ear down against the top of carburetor for the cyl being tested. 27) If you hear allot of air coming out from the intake you have a bent or broken intake valve. 28) Now put your ear against the #1 cylinder exhaust pot outlet, if you hear allot of air coming out from the exhaust port you have a bent or broken exhaust port valve. 29) If those test were good take off your oil fill cap. 30) If you hear allot of air going into the case than you have a serious piston problem break down. Now with the information you just got you can determine what the cost will be to fix the engine and you now know what's wrong with it. Take care and e-mail me soon. Doug Nelson