From richardl@bigfoot.com Tue Feb 4 19:19:53 1997 Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 21:55:59 -0800 From: Richard Lanouette MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GTS Subject: 530 sprockets Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by access.mbnet.mb.ca id UAA28368 Just receive my 530 sprockets. They are AFAM sprockets available from White brothers. Front : 17 tooth part no. 75-1621 sugg. retail : 84 $ u.s. Rear : 45 tooth (instead of 47) part no. 75-1761 (FZR, YZF) sugg. retail 20 $ The rear is made of alloy very light (feel lighter than the front one !) They are at : http://www.whitebros.com/ -- _ _ Salut ! Richard _- O O Venez me visiter à : http://www.connectmmic.net/users/richardl/ ----------------------------------------------------------- From khawkins@gbncmail.ims.att.com Wed Feb 26 13:12:32 1997 From: "Hawkins, Kevin" To: "'Mike Coan'" Cc: "'GTS-1000'" Subject: RE: Chain Tension Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:47:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>DID, the maker of the OEM chain says that they are available in the >>US and just needs to be order from a dealer. It should be about $130. Hmmm....when I asked my dealer about this chain he said $225!!!! Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC AMA #609423 // khawkins@gbncmail.ims.att.com '95 900CR (Desmo) // '93 GTS1000 (RADD Boy) ----------------------------------------------------------- From khawkins@gbncmail.ims.att.com Wed Feb 26 13:48:04 1997 From: "Hawkins, Kevin" To: "'ltweed@nfis.com'" Cc: "'GTS-1000'" Subject: RE: GTS Chain Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:27:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Is there an advantage to staying with the 532 chain? Overall tensile strength might be a little higher for the 532. >>I understand from what I have read that chains and >>sprockets are supposed to be changed together anyway. With hardened aluminum yes. The sprockets wear out before the chain does usually. With the hardened steel alloy (SunStar) sprockets, I've found that the sprockets are in fine shape after the chain has reached the end of it's service life. I typically will let the sprockets go for the life of two chains, then replace everything. Close inspection is all thats needed to make this determination. If the sprockets are worn or hooked, replace. >>If the 530 stuff is cheaper over all than the 532 stuff, I will change. I did. The 530s are much more common and produced in greater numbers, thus lower price. Generally around $85-$100. Mike says he can get the 532 for about $125, while I was qouted $225. Who knows, it pays to shop around. Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC AMA #609423 // khawkins@gbncmail.ims.att.com '95 900CR (Desmo) // '93 GTS1000 (RADD Boy) ----------------------------------------------------------- From mikecoan@sprynet.com Wed Feb 26 16:28:51 1997 From: Mike Coan To: "'ltweed@nfis.com'" , GTS Mailing List Subject: RE: GTS Chain Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:11:33 -0800 Encoding: 60 TEXT The 532 sprocket from Yamaha has a bushing that absorbs vibration. After market 530 do not have it. Mike HTTP://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mikecoan Home of the famous HEAT-TROLLER Heated Clothing Controller -----Original Message----- From: Louis Tweed [SMTP:ltweed@nfis.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 1997 12:52 PM To: GTS Mailing List; Mike Coan Subject: GTS Chain Mike Coan wrote: > > DID, the maker of the OEM chain says that they are available in the US and just needs to be order from a dealer. It should be about $130. I bring them back with me from England. But if we focus on one supplier, maybe white brothers, then they will get the 532 in stock. > > Mike > HTTP://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/mikecoan > Home of the famous HEAT-TROLLER > Heated Clothing Controller > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hawkins, Kevin [SMTP:khawkins@gbncmail.ims.att.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 1997 10:58 AM > To: 'ltweed@nfis.com' > Cc: 'GTS-1000' > Subject: RE: Chain Tension > > >>I know I have this information somewhere but I'll ask again. What is > >>the best play to have in the drive chain at the tightest spot. > > I believe the manual says around .8 - 1.0 inches vertical up-down at the > bottom/center of the chain. > > >>I must not be using the power of the bike, because I have > >>4000 miles on the bike, and am just now really needing to > >>tighten the chain. Is this normal? All my other bikes it was > >>more like 1-2000 miles. I lube the chain every 500 miles. > > I guess you're still on the OEM chain? Count your blessings (and the > miles), because when that one wears out you'll have to spend around $180 > for a new 530 chain w/sprocket conversion kit or you can buy a hard to > find OEM 532 for $$$$$$. My OEM lasted about 17K and the DID Gold-Xring > is still going at 16K. > > Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC > AMA #609423 // khawkins@gbncmail.ims.att.com > '95 900CR (Desmo) // '93 GTS1000 (RADD Boy) > Is there an advantage to staying with the 532 chain? I understand from what I have read that chains and sprockets are supposed to be changed together anyway. More money but less wear. If the 530 stuff is cheaper over all than the 532 stuff, I will change. Louis ----------------------------------------------------------- From richardl@bigfoot.com Wed Feb 26 16:39:41 1997 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:26:46 -0800 From: Richard Lanouette MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GTS Mailing List Subject: Re: GTS Chain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by access.mbnet.mb.ca id SAA20576 GTS 530 conversion sprocket : They are AFAM sprockets available from White brothers. Front : 17 tooth part no. 75-1621 sugg. retail : 84 $ u.s. Rear : 45 tooth (instead of 47) part no. 75-1761 (FZR, YZF) sugg. retail 20 $ The rear is made of alloy very light (feel lighter than the front one !) -- _ _ Salut ! Richard _- O O Venez me visiter à : http://www.connectmmic.net/users/richardl/ ----------------------------------------------------------- From ltweed@nfis.com Wed Feb 26 18:38:10 1997 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 21:17:55 -0500 From: Louis Tweed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Coan CC: GTS Mailing List Subject: Re: GTS Chain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Coan wrote: > > The 532 sprocket from Yamaha has a bushing that absorbs vibration. After > market 530 do not have it. Has anyone that has switched to 530's noticed any difference in vibration? Or is this something that will shorten the life of the motor's bearings? Louis ----------------------------------------------------------- From khawkins@gbncmail.ims.att.com Thu Feb 27 05:11:16 1997 From: "Hawkins, Kevin" To: "'ltweed@nfis.com'" Cc: "'GTS-1000'" Subject: RE: GTS Chain Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:01:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> The 532 sprocket from Yamaha has a bushing that absorbs >>vibration. After market 530 do not have it. Huh, who told you this Mike? Sounds like a sales line to me. The only bushing is in the sprocket CARRIER. It's the "little rubber baby buggy bumpers" between the sprocket carrier and the wheel. >>Has anyone that has switched to 530's noticed any difference in >>vibration? Or is this something that will shorten the life of the >>motor's bearings? Read above. Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC AMA #609423 // khawkins@gbncmail.ims.att.com '95 900CR (Desmo) // '93 GTS1000 (RADD Boy) > ----------------------------------------------------------- From mikecoan@sprynet.com Thu Feb 27 11:39:19 1997 From: mikecoan To: "'Hawkins, Kevin'" , "'ltweed@nfis.com'" Cc: "'GTS-1000'" Subject: RE: GTS Chain Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:17:36 -0800 Encoding: 27 TEXT If you look on both sides of the front sprocket you will see the bushings. -----Original Message----- From: Hawkins, Kevin [SMTP:khawkins@gbncmail.ims.att.com] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 1997 5:02 AM To: 'ltweed@nfis.com' Cc: 'GTS-1000' Subject: RE: GTS Chain >> The 532 sprocket from Yamaha has a bushing that absorbs >>vibration. After market 530 do not have it. Huh, who told you this Mike? Sounds like a sales line to me. The only bushing is in the sprocket CARRIER. It's the "little rubber baby buggy bumpers" between the sprocket carrier and the wheel. >>Has anyone that has switched to 530's noticed any difference in >>vibration? Or is this something that will shorten the life of the >>motor's bearings? Read above. Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC AMA #609423 // khawkins@gbncmail.ims.att.com '95 900CR (Desmo) // '93 GTS1000 (RADD Boy) > ----------------------------------------------------------- From gtsbiker@ix.netcom.com Thu Feb 27 17:55:23 1997 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:29:37 -0800 From: Robert Taylor MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Hawkins, Kevin" CC: "'ltweed@nfis.com'" , "'GTS-1000'" Subject: Re: GTS Chain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hawkins, Kevin wrote: > > >> The 532 sprocket from Yamaha has a bushing that absorbs > >>vibration. After market 530 do not have it. > > Huh, who told you this Mike? Sounds like a sales line to me. The only > bushing is in the sprocket CARRIER. It's the "little rubber baby buggy > bumpers" between the sprocket carrier and the wheel. > > >>Has anyone that has switched to 530's noticed any difference in > >>vibration? Or is this something that will shorten the life of the > >>motor's bearings? > > Read above. > > Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC > AMA #609423 // khawkins@gbncmail.ims.att.com > '95 900CR (Desmo) // '93 GTS1000 (RADD Boy) > > > There is a rubber part on the stock countershaft sprocket that the side plates of the chain presses on slightly when going around the teeth but its to reduce chain noise! Bob Taylor,gtsbiker ----------------------------------------------------------- From karenvs@postoffice.worldnet.att.net Thu Feb 27 18:41:29 1997 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:30:02 -0800 From: Roger & Karen Van Santen MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ltweed@nfis.com CC: Mike Coan , GTS Mailing List Subject: Re: GTS Chain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Louis Tweed wrote: > > Mike Coan wrote: > > > > The 532 sprocket from Yamaha has a bushing that absorbs vibration. After > > market 530 do not have it. > Has anyone that has switched to 530's noticed any difference in > vibration? Or is this something that will shorten the life of the > motor's bearings? > Louis Yes, I've noticed increased vibration since going to a 530. If we can get the 532 chain at a reasonable price, I'm going back. I haven't priced the Yamaha counter shaft sprocket (with the fiber bushing), but I'll bet it's not cheap! Roger ----------------------------------------------------------- From karenvs@postoffice.worldnet.att.net Thu Feb 27 18:41:29 1997 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:30:02 -0800 From: Roger & Karen Van Santen MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ltweed@nfis.com CC: Mike Coan , GTS Mailing List Subject: Re: GTS Chain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Louis Tweed wrote: > > Mike Coan wrote: > > > > The 532 sprocket from Yamaha has a bushing that absorbs vibration. After > > market 530 do not have it. > Has anyone that has switched to 530's noticed any difference in > vibration? Or is this something that will shorten the life of the > motor's bearings? > Louis Yes, I've noticed increased vibration since going to a 530. If we can get the 532 chain at a reasonable price, I'm going back. I haven't priced the Yamaha counter shaft sprocket (with the fiber bushing), but I'll bet it's not cheap! Roger ----------------------------------------------------------- From: khawkins@hrncgate.ims.att.com To: "'Michael Weaver'" Cc: "'GTS-1000'" Subject: RE: Chain/Sprocket info Date: Mon, 10 Mar 97 14:30 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Encoding: 14 TEXT >What is the collective wisdom as to make and model for both >the chain and the sprockets? Well, a couple of years ago I called Competition Accessories and simply asked for a 532 to 530 conversion for the GTS. He said "I don't believe we have one for the bike". "Hey, wait a minute.....WE DO!! I ended up with Sunstar steel alloy sprockets and a DID Gold X-ring chain. Very nice. I am extremely happy with my choice! 18K on the DID with more life let in it. No sign of hooking on the sprockets Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC AMA #609423 // khawkins@gbncmail.ims.att.com http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy/index.html '95 Ducati 900CR // '93 Yamaha GTS1000 ----------------------------------------------------------- From: Bobgts@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:55:06 -0500 (EST) To: weaver@arches.uga.edu, gts-1000@MBnet.MB.CA Subject: Re: Chain/Sprocket info i am on my third chain. after the original which lasted about 17000 i went to a tsubaki sigma and it lasted about the same. i used a good quality aftermarket set of steel sprockets and the set was easy to install. i used a cutting wheel and just cut the stock chain off. your manual tells you the proceedure and torque spec for both ends if you dont have a manuel let me know and i will mail them to you. its much!!! cheaper than oem chain and sprockets ----------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:21:54 -0800 From: Richard Lanouette MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Weaver CC: Mailing List GTS Subject: Re: Chain/Sprocket info Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by access.mbnet.mb.ca id TAA19386 Michael Weaver wrote: > > Hey all, > > My chain is finally shagged and I need a new one. Right off, I don't want > a stock 532 endless or OEM sprockets. I want to convert to 530 with > aftermarket. Just bought my 530 sprockets a few weeks ago. (bt have'nt installed it yet). They are AFAM sprockets available from White brothers. Front : 17 tooth part no. 75-1621 sugg. retail : 84 $ u.s. Rear : 45 tooth (instead of 47) part no. 75-1761 (FZR, YZF) sugg. retail 20 $ The rear is made of alloy very light (feel lighter than the front one !) _ _ Salut ! Richard _- O O Venez me visiter à : http://www.connectmmic.net/users/richardl/ ----------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hawkins, Kevin" To: "'richardl@bigfoot.com'" Cc: "'GTS-1000'" Subject: RE: Chain/Sprocket info Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:56:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>They are AFAM sprockets available from White brothers. >>Front : 17 tooth part no. 75-1621 sugg. retail : 84 $ u.s. >>Rear : 45 tooth (instead of 47) part no. 75-1761 (FZR, YZF) sugg. >>retail 20 $ The rear is made of alloy very light (feel lighter than the >>front one !) AFAM is about as good as it gets, when your getting aluminum alloy. However.......I've yet to see an aluminum alloy sprocket that will out live ANY steel alloy sprocket. I've learned my lesson with the aluminum sprockets on my Ducati and will NEVER use them on my GTS. Because the aluminum sprockets wear much faster than the steel ones, your chain life is reduced significantly too. I truly hope that your experiences are different than mine Richard. Let us know how it goes. Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC AMA #609423 // khawkins@gbncmail.ims.att.com http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy/index.html '95 Ducati 900CR // '93 Yamaha GTS1000 ----------------------------------------------------------- >>I remember that you have changed from the OEM 532 to >>530 chain. What rear sprocket did you use? Call Kiernan Racing at 609-758-8111. They've got the Sunstar 530 for GTS1000 for $27. Of course you'll need the countershaft sprocket too. I deal almost exclusively with these folks now. Kevin Keirnan will answer the phone. They are a local shop in New Jersey that is very competitive with the big mail order houses and he won't promise you anything unless he can deliver. http://www.braincell.com/kiernan/ Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC AMA #609423 // khawkins@gbncmail.ims.att.com -------------------------------------- Kevin, I used a 530 conversion kit from AFAM consisting of: 530 Regina Gold chain 17 - Counter Shaft steel 45 - Hard anodized alloy rear sprocket. Results: Smooths out gear/chain lash and doesn't seem to make much difference with exceleration. Lowers crusing RPMs about 400 RPM, and gives honest 200MI/ tank range. Three Brothers Racing did the conversion in Costa Mesa Ca. Best Regards, Doug..